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Tom in Tacoma
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Posted - May 3 : 1:23p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
(...with apologies to "Five Things That Piss Off Mort"...)

Children in America are unique to say the least.

Here in the United States kids are sent to school while we coddle them offering rewards and incentives for them to do well in school. When I say that we coddle them I'm talking about things like:

  • For the most part - kids get on buses for trips as short as 1/2-mile and buses stop at every corner (lest a kid actually have to walk an extra block!)

  • While buses are loading and unloading their precious cargo everything else must stop. Rather than teach kids not to run out into the street (there's a concept!) all traffic must come to a halt until the bus driver decides that their little treasures are all safe and sound and a minimum of 30 extra seconds have elapsed.

  • Why is it that school buses have to stop to see if a train is coming? Are they hiring deaf, blind and stupid drivers? If the stop is meant to avoid getting hit by a train, in my mind a bus is more likely to stall shortly after it leaves from a dead stop. Are yellow school buses more likely to be hit by a train because nobody else seems to be worried about it enough to stop, look, listen.

  • Even when the little toddlers (including grades 9 through 12) are safe and sound behind locked doors and patrolled hallways the traffic in an extended circumference must travel no more than 20MPH lest we squish one of the lil' fellers


But what gets me is these rules above apply equally to elementary schools as they do to high schools. Nothing drives me more nuts than to have drive 20mph past a high school when the only people in sight are the students walking from the school building out to their own cars.

It's all about "protecting the children". Are we teaching them how to survive their futures? I think not. We're teaching them the lesson that they need not look out for themselves - we'll do it for them. Stupid! We moan and bitch about political correctness at the drop of dime - but we just sit there and wait for the bus driver to tell us it's safe for us to drive again - but do so slowly because there's children nearby!!

...okay - it's your turn now...

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Posted  - May 3 : 3:58p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator


Preach on, brotha.

I actually agree with some of your statements, but not all. A 20mph zone around a high school is ludicrous, but around elementary and middle schools it should be 20 miles per hour all the time, not something subjective like "when children are present," because you may not have seen one, or whatever. And you should slow the fuck down when you're by an elementary school. Stupidity should be painful, but not fatal.

Its actually federal law that all buses and haz-mat trucks must stop, turn on their flashers, and open a door or window at train tracks. And its probably a good idea. I have to cross tracks to get from my house to pretty much anywhere, and its remarkable the stupidity of some people. Don't stop on fucking train tracks, people. By the way, getting hung up on train tracks is the easiest way to lose a commercial driver's license for life.

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Posted  - May 3 : 4:17p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Having a son that started school this year I have to disagree on some of your statements.

Yes I walked to school, and it was 2 miles, but I don't think I'd let my son walk and we live half a mile from his school. He's 6 mind you and I don't know at what age I'll let him walk to school. Having a kid and watching the news and seeing what goes on in this world...I wonder why I ever did. Call me paranoid, but having a child does change how you view things.

Edit: After having read your statement a second time, I say this it really doesn't bother me having to wait for the buses. I guess I've made adjustment in my schedule to account for such.

Now on a side note, I don't believe that there should be trophies for second or third place or last place for that matter. Why celebrate mediocrity. Only give those that win a trophy.

Edited by - BIG STEVE on May 3 4:21p

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Posted  - May 3 : 4:36p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Tom -

I got your back 100% on this. Especially the school zone speed limit thing.

I've had to adjust my morning schedule to not get stuck behind a school bus more then once. This curb-side service stuff is bullshit, especially when you see all these fat fucking kids standing around waiting to be carted from place to place.

My wife and I decided not to have kids, but sometimes I want to have a kid just so ONE person from that generation could be raised to not be a fat society-dependant loser-pussy.

There are no sidewalks in my neighborhood. Unless you are blind, this is patently obvious when looking at homes in the area. Then people with kids move in and realize that their own driveway is the only place for Junior to ride a bike or play out of traffic. The solution for some parents? Put a sign in the fucking street, right after a curve that says "SLOW CHILDREN AT PLAY". The children aren't "slow", the parents are for thinking the rest of the neighborhood needs to go at 1/2 the speed limit so their helmet-clad child can ride their training-wheels bike in the road.

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Posted  - May 3 : 5:35p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
OMG! Have we digressed to the point were Dev and agrees with me 100% Hell's-Bells - we're all fucked!

Mort - the fact that it's a federal law makes it stink that much more. Traffic laws are meant to be within a state's jurisdiction. That fact that there's a law at all is what tugs my scrotum.

Big Steve - I hear ya. For the record - I went to school overseas where nobody stops for school buses - period. The same for my brother and sister and my daughter as well. Probably has a lot to do with my mindset. Love the comment about trophy's for non-winners! The Seattle Roadster show gives a trophy to every single entrant. Kinda cheapens the whole thing in my mind.

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Posted  - May 3 : 7:48p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Ok all this is interesting and I have to say it brought to mind one of the stupidest things ever. Here the school system and School Bus companies and law makers are going full bore to save the little darlings and at the same time they are being driven around in school buses with out seat belts.

And yet there are a plethora of laws for seat belts for kids in you family car including back seat special seats for the toddlers and not putting the dears infront of a air bag. Plus if you get pulled over with your kid without a seat belt the Officer will read you the riot act and give you a ticket so expensive it could pay your car off.

So what the fuck is that all about and why dont they have seat belts??? Its more likely the bus will get in an accident than you running one over when he or she gets out of the bus.


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Posted  - May 3 : 8:02p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Kids are overrated

Edited by - Carnival Freak on May 6 9:01p

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Posted  - May 3 : 9:01p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
o.k. friday I had to go pick up my 6year old son from school. while driving in the school zone a car coming the other direction from a light that just turned green was doing at least 35 miles an hour. I said to my wife " we are in a school zone right?"

if people did what they were supposed to do there wouldn't be a problem. but if thier child got hit by a car in a school zone, that person driving so fast for no reason would be the first one to cry out to kill the person who hit thier child!

if you went back to nature it's the survival of the fittest! too many yussies out there in my oppion!

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Posted  - May 5 : 4:32p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I like Carnival freaks' reply... ."Kids are overated"

I agree with you Tom... While we are at it, can I throw another log on the fire?

Since I don't have kids, yet I own land why in the name of zues butthole do i have to pay for everyone else's kids to go to school? I don't have a kid yet I still have to pay $2500 for someone little angels to fail out of school with no chance of even being able to ground them. At the very least I feel like they should be sending me someone's report card every semester.

I'm not a kid friendly individual. I don't mind high-schoolers and up, but I cringe when i hear a baby crying or a kid throwing a fit. Makes me want to kick them over a fence. So why is it that I am forced to pay for their education? Doesn't seem right.

you have a kid, you're responsible... that's the way it should be...




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Posted  - May 5 : 4:38p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I think the school bus should have the gas pedal pinned a 1/4 mile from the train tracks, and not let off until you're all the way across.

This way, you spend the minimal amount of time crossing the track, thus reducing the chance of getting struck by a train.




And if they're running across the street and get hit...well, we're just thinning out the herd. And besides, it's their fault if they were running. At least that's what I learned on my third trip to traffic school.

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Posted  - May 5 : 5:02p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
This morning I'm again stopped by a school bus picking kids up. I'm looking into the windshield of the bus while I'm waiting for the stop sign to disappear and I observed this...

All the kids had boarded the bus and the door was, for the most part, closed. But the driver would not retract that fuckin' sign because one of the darlings hadn't yet picked just the right seat. I ask you - what harm am I going to do to a kid that's already on a bus and why did we all have to sit and wait for the little shit to pick a fuckin' seat? The moment I saw little Billy's butt sit down - the driver pulled in the sign. I shoulda gave her a sign of my own...

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Posted  - May 5 : 5:32p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
every curb? I wish. I got caught behind a bus the other day, and they stop at every house. Every one! When I was growing up we either walked to school, or the neighborhood gathered at 1 bus stop.

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Posted  - May 11 : 12:56a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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All the kids had boarded the bus and the door was, for the most part, closed. But the driver would not retract that fuckin' sign because one of the darlings hadn't yet picked just the right seat.


Bump the back bumper with the truck....That'll sit little Billy's ass down!!

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Posted  - May 11 : 1:49p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
They tried passing a law for seat belts on school buses here but the retarded bus drivers complained that it might take too long to unbuckle them in the event that a speedy evacuation was needed. So now if the moron hits a tree all he need do is unbuckle his belt and stagger off the bus and wait for the morgue to show up with a pail and a mop to clean up the rest of the mess in the bus. Do your buses have the arm that swings out the front of the bus? I think one of the *tards ran over a kid he couldn't see. My neighbour drive a school bus and she showed me a camera the the bus company is installing to film anyone who drives past the flashing lights.

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Posted  - May 11 : 1:53p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Mort - the fact that it's a federal law makes it stink that much more. Traffic laws are meant to be within a state's jurisdiction. That fact that there's a law at all is what tugs my scrotum.



I think the federal part comes mostly for the HazMat part, because interstate trucking falls under federal rules. The bus part is probably a law because just about any waterhead can get a Class C CDL and drive a schoolbus.

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Posted  - May 11 : 4:42p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Well Tom, I am having to agree with you on this.
If I remember right, I could actually see my school from were I lived in 5th grade and still had to walk 9/10ths of a mile to the bus stop because they could not get there without crossing private property.

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I am appalled that this conversation is being conducted by "grown-ups"! While I do agree that stopping at every house, even when there is a clear place to walk is ridiculous, there is a reason that the bus stops traffic...so that there are no accidents! While it may seem like common sense to you to not run out into oncoming traffic, a little kid has not had the time to learn not to rush into traffic because they think that they are going to miss the bus. And to the *ing assholethat thinks that the SLOW, CHILDREN AT PLAY signs are a waste of taxpayer money...Its is Douche bags like you who are flying down my street at rush hour at two to three times the posted speed limit...one day, there is going to be a child that gets hurt, and the only one that there is to blame is the jerkoff that was just doing 60 down a one block street with a posted limit of 25, just to bet traffic at the light one block ahead!

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Posted  - May 15 : 7:06p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... who cares

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Posted  - May 15 : 9:06p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... who cares



You just made me commit alcohol abuse.. damn you Mike!

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Posted  - May 15 : 9:39p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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I am appalled that this conversation is being conducted by "grown-ups"! While I do agree that stopping at every house, even when there is a clear place to walk is ridiculous, there is a reason that the bus stops traffic...so that there are no accidents! While it may seem like common sense to you to not run out into oncoming traffic, a little kid has not had the time to learn not to rush into traffic because they think that they are going to miss the bus. And to the *ing assholethat thinks that the SLOW, CHILDREN AT PLAY signs are a waste of taxpayer money...Its is Douche bags like you who are flying down my street at rush hour at two to three times the posted speed limit...one day, there is going to be a child that gets hurt, and the only one that there is to blame is the jerkoff that was just doing 60 down a one block street with a posted limit of 25, just to bet traffic at the light one block ahead!

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Okay Justin - I'm inclined to simply tell you to go fuck yourself - but I won't.

Here's the crux of my overall point... If a child hasn't yet learned that running out into the street is dangerous, then it should be that child's parents' (the one's that decided to bring that little creature into this world) responsibility to ensure the child gets on the bus safely. My wife and I did it until we knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that our daughter could safely walk the distance to school on her own. It shouldn't be up to every other person on the face of this planet to make up for someone's lack of responsibility as a parent.

I will make one other point - you cite the example of, "...Douche bags like you who are flying down my street at rush hour at two to three times the posted speed limit...one day, there is going to be a child that gets hurt, and the only one that there is to blame is the jerkoff that was just doing 60 down a one block street with a posted limit of 25..." Do you really suppose someone that's going to double or triple the speed limit on their own accord is really going to pay any attention to a stopped school bus' stop sign anyway? Get real.

...okay - I've reconsidered. Go fuck yourself anyway. You called us all "grown-up's" and Mike a douchebag. If this discussion "appalls" you - stick around noobie. You ain't seen nothing yet. Pay for the premium membership where you get the full brunt of the blog!

Okay - back atcha!

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Posted  - May 16 : 7:43a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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And to the *ing assholethat thinks that the SLOW, CHILDREN AT PLAY signs are a waste of taxpayer money...

Justin



I hope you didn't go to public school, because if you did THAT was a waste of taxpayer money. Your reading comprehension skills are nonexistent at best.

I was talking about parents putting their own makeshift signs IN THE FUCKING STREET, because they bought a house in a locale that isn't ideal for little Susie to learn to ride a bike.

My comment wasn't about speeding, it was about douche-bags like YOU that think their own walking ejaculate is somehow some precious little cargo.

BTW, I also love your one-giant-paragraph writing style. Not only do you not have any valuable contributions to make, your words are packed tighter than the passengers of a bus that just went off a cliff.

Have a nice day, let us know when you are ready to play with the grown-ups...

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Posted  - May 16 : 8:39a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
So if the kid is running across the street because he is late, whose fault is that? I was taught to cross the street at corners. To look both ways and all that other crap. I was also taught to walk facing oncoming traffic where there was no sidewalk. I had to walk 2 blocks to get my bus. And it wasn't a yellow one either. Cars drove past it and kids waited on the other side of the fücking street till it was clear to cross. Coddling our children created a generation of retards.

My older brother was hit by a car running across the street. He learned his lessons the hard way. My parents didn't sue the driver of the car. My brother was at fault. While I am forced to concede the fact that flashing red lights on yellow buses are needed I say they are needed because parents failed to educate their children. If the children are so immature that they cannot safely cross the street then they should be escorted by the parents. And the parents should be on the side of the street that the bus door opens to greet their child. Then when the bus pulls away they could cross the street. And if they are not near a corner then walk to it and cross there.

These are the same little fücktards that do not know how to cross the street. What happens when they leave the house to go play with the kid down the street?

Stupidity is genetic, ignorance can be cured with education. Where do you fit in?

JMC


Edited by - JMC on May 16 8:41a

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Posted  - May 16 : 9:16a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Coddling our children created a generation of retards.
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case in point, last night a kid was hit on his bike ridding it onto the freeway feeder to chase a ball someone had hit. maybe we should should have put up signs on the freeway to tall everyone to slow down and be mindful of children playing, just because there was a retarded kid on a bike.

It's not all bad news though, he survived the hit and subsequent 150 foot flight and will be around to mess up someone elses' grill later in life!
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