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djbrown
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Posted - January 18 2007 : 7:52p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Has anyone out there heard of this? I am getting Diesel Fuel in my coolant system. The dealership says that can't happen. Does anyone know of this problem?

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 7:55p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
blown headgasket...usually its the other way around though, burning the coolant in the pistons. i dunno dude

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 7:55p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Never heard of that. Others will be here to help soon I bet.

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 8:03p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
A cracked injector cup cna do this as well.

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 8:08p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yes. You could have a bad injector.. I had a car do that. pull it off the road before you clean out your motor. Also check the oil..

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 8:09p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Thanks so far for the info I got from all of you. The shop I usually go to is not a dealership. They said a fuel system wouldn't have the pressure to pump into the cooling system if it were a block crack, head gasket or something along that line. They said that would be white smoke and a bad running engine, which isn't happening. The injector cup sounds like a promising place to look.
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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 8:15p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Thanks so far for the info I got from all of you. The shop I usually go to is not a dealership. They said a fuel system wouldn't have the pressure to pump into the cooling system if it were a block crack, head gasket or something along that line. They said that would be white smoke and a bad running engine, which isn't happening. The injector cup sounds like a promising place to look.
Any other thoughts?

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 8:39p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I hope to have the truck in the shop tomorrow. The oil is clean and normal. That's good for me. I will see about the injectors. That sounds like the best possibility I've heard so far.

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 8:52p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Is the shop you go to a diesel specialty shop? Because direct injected diesels run extremely high fuel pressures, much more than gassers. If it were aimed in the right spot, one of those one-in-a-million things, it could conceivably get into the cooling system.

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 9:06p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
In a diesel you can definitely have it in both directions like Mort mentioned because of the hight pressure a diesel is under. Is your truck a 6.0L? Post over in the diesel forum, and Doc should be along to answer your question, cause he would know for sure.

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Posted  - January 18 2007 : 9:08p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Never mind, I just realized you have 2002, so its a 7.3...Either way Doc should be able to helpya.

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Posted  - January 19 2007 : 3:13a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Which Doc?

Me, or Docluv?

Diesels run two fuel pumps -

1. a low pressure lift pump that pulls fuel from the tank to the high pressure pump (anywhere from 65 psi in a PSD to 7 psi in a CTD)

2. a high pressure pump to increse the pressure to 21,000 to 25,000 psi

the PSD uses an HPOP - high pressure oil pump, which drives the injectors, compounding the fuel pressures inside the injector. So, the injector has two feeds - fuel and high pressure oil.

I've not heard any circumstances where the high pressure fuel leaks into the cooling system, as the fuel is fed below the oil feed.


hmmm....this is strange.

I'd take it to an International dealership to do a injector contribution test to see if you have a bad injector.

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Posted  - January 19 2007 : 9:17a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey Dr Speed. I don't know which doc. The loki wolf said to ask the Doc, so I'm asking. This thing is strange for sure. I wold say it is my luck to have a one in a million fluke. I'm going to keep looking and listening for solutions. I will have the shop start at the injectors. The diesel guy at the shop is pretty darn good.

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Posted  - January 19 2007 : 10:53a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know that I contacted our local diesel specialty shop. The mechanic said it really sounds like a cracked injector sleeve. He has done a couple of those jobs on Ford's, so he is pretty confident about the diagnosis. He is swamped so my beast is down until next week. He said I can drive it if necessary, just pull the fuel off the coolant each time. All day job next week to replace the sleeves. If it isn't one thing...

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Posted  - January 19 2007 : 11:03a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
sorry im late on this but yes crack injector cups or sleeves will cause fuel to get into coolant .. as was mentioned fuel pressure at that point is 50-65 psi plenty over coolant system prssures to push into coolant. I would highly recomend do all 8 and inspect injectors for signs of contamination IE rusty discoleration on the lower end any that show this should be changed but I have seen guys rerun them and run well

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