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GATOR CREW
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Posted - July 6 2005 : 12:13a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Or any colored truck for that matter

I just got my wife a 2005 Black Jeep Liberty Limited(she didn't want a Ford....I triedand to top it off, she wanted BLACK!!!!. I just washed it for the 1st time this past weekend and what a job that was, I had to keep watering it down as it was drying it in this Fla sun....It was a pain!!!! I used a chamie(Spell) to dry with and I noticed some scratches on the paint that night under the lights at walmart. I know that it will get scratches sooner or later, but the 1st wash!!!! I was wondering if the detail guys at the Jeep dealer maybe did it when the detailed before they gave it too us.

So my question is......What is the BEST thing to dry my ride's with??????? Terry towel, microfiber, or what?????? Thanks everyone!!!


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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 12:30a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I use a microfiber waffle weave towel.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 4:11a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I use an "Absorber" on my True Blue and on my Black, and lots of WAX

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 8:45a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Okay - one more time...

Don't use anything that will touch the paint. You're only introducing another opportunity for a tiny piece of grit to scratch the paint.

Use a leaf-blower or compressed air. Trust me - it'll be dry including all the cracks and crevasses that normally drip for an hour after washing. Best part is you don't even need to touch it.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 9:04a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Thanks for the replys

Tom are you serious??? A Leaf blower??? It dosent't spot? I had someone tell me today to use the Mr. Clean dryless car wash

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 9:16a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Tom's right, a leaf blower works well, but if you don't have one, a micro fiber waffle weave drying towel is the shizzzel.

I feel your pain about washing under a hot sun, here in Vegas when it's 100+deg and the humidity is an average of 6% the water out of the hose begins to dry before it hits the car. A shaded area is the only answer. I tried the Mr Clean system just for the final rinse and that did not help. Our water is so hard and full of minerals it can etch glass and the ph is very high so letting the water dry on the car finish is one of the biggest problems we have.

I'd suggest a good coat of wax once the Jeep is clean. As you'll find out, black can be the biggest PITA to keep looking good, but on the other hand, black when properly cleaned and waxed will look IMHO the best eye catching color there is.

These are the basics for attaining the best look for black and every other color, no matter what car care products you use, these steps will work for the best finish:

1 Wash & Dry

2 Clay Bar Treatment (this will remove contaminates from the paint,even new paint!)

3 Polish! (this removes oxidation and small swirls from the paint)

4 Wax (again, no matter who's products you use, waxing or sealing the paint will be best if you properly prepare the paint with the steps above)

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 9:41a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
This is definately the first and last black vehicle I will own.

I use a microfiber towel and compressed air.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 9:43a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Gator Crew I feel your pain about black. I had a black 280ZX a long while ago and that sumbitch never seemed to stay clean enough for me and the scratches always seemed to jump out.

As far as drying now, I use a 3 step process that may seem like a lot of work but I can't argue the results. 1st, i hit it with the Absorber. 2nd, a micro weave towel to get the leftover and 3rd a good old fashioned 100% cotton baby diaper to get any missed streaks and bring up the high shine.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 9:45a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
@ Sprocket...I agree!!!



VegasLightz, thank you so much for the info. How long do you have to wait to wax a new car? That ride of yours look great!!!

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 9:49a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Welcome to the world of black. And let me introduce you to the world of Adams Polishes.

My last five vehicles have been black. From a Ferrari to a pickup truck.

Here is the world your now going to have to live with. Your wife made two mistakes.
1 Not getting a Ford. JK.
2 Selecting Black as a color.no joke.

I can help you with number 2 mistake.

First of all here are the Products your going to need.
1. Mequires body scrub or paint cleaner. Or Adams Revive!
2. Adams Butter Wax
3. 4 Adams microfiber Applicators
4. 4 Adams Microfiber Polishing towels
5. 2 Adams Microfiber Drying Towels
6. Adams Car Wash
7. Adams Clay Bar
8. Adams Scratch out
Optional:
7. Adams Tire Dressing
8. Adams Aluminum Polish if you have Aluminum wheels or any other aluminum parts.

Number one
You must find shade to wash your Jeep.
You must do it early in the morning at sunrise or Sunset with no wind condition in effect. No direct sun.
Wash the car with adams clay bar. A new car has railroad dust embedded in the paint from shipping. This was probably why its scratched already. You need to get the contaniments off the paint.

Number two
From this moment on you must work in a clean invironment. That means NO DUST ON ANYTHING. Its best to do the rest in your garage. If thats not possible then in the shade on a non windy day. Most days start out with a no wind condition. From 530 to 9 am is best. If its windy dont do it. Wait until a no wind morning.
Apply either Mequires Body Scrub, Custom Cleaner or Adams Revive with a CLEAN applicator. Do Small Areas at a time. When tacky wipe off with a CLEAN Adams microfiber towel. (Dont wait for it to dry you will have dust particles from the dry polish and they scratch black.) If you drop the polishing towel on the ground at any time. DO NOT USE IT AGAIN until its washed.
Same goes for the Applicators. You drop one? It goes in the washing maching. This is imperative.
After finishing the whole vehicle with cleaner. Look from all angles for scratches. If you find any use Adams Scratch out on those areas several times until they dissapear.
Next Apply Adams Butter wax. Same rules apply. NO DUST ON ANYTHING.
Now step back and look at that baby in the sun. It will rock your world.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 10:12a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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@ Sprocket...I agree!!!



VegasLightz, thank you so much for the info. How long do you have to wait to wax a new car? That ride of yours look great!!!



Thanks, truthfully, I'm loving the black!

Once the car hits the dealers lot, it is ready to be totally detailed so get to work. If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me, I'm no expert, but I may be able to help you out from the mistakes I've made in the past.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 10:31a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
That is the one thing I put my foot down on when my girlfriend bought her new car: no black. Especially because she takes it through automatic car washes.

Follow Greez's advice. His black rig looks good. Every other one I've seen is a great 20 foot job (if that).



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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 11:05a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
The Mr. Clean wash is mostly hype. It's all in the deionization of the water. I try to wash my truck as early in the dayt as possible, in the shade. Microfiber towels from Poorboys and Absorber to dry.if I see spots, I rewet it and dry it.

-The first and last black vehicle for me too lol.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 11:07a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Take it back, and trade for silver...

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 11:52a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
@ Toolman!

Thanks Lynn, that was very detailed. I appreciate it. I want to keep it looking great, black does look sweet when it's all done up!!!!

Thanks for all the advice!

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 12:19p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yes, I was serious about the leaf blower. No spots, no scratches. Try it - you'll see.

And get the list of Adams products that Greez laid out for you. I've worked on his truck and was/am amazed at the results on clearcoated black paint. And that truck looked like shit when he pulled it into my driveway!

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 12:26p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
No it was a lot worse looking than shit. Shit look great compared to how it looked.

I love Tom. He put in 20 hours with me to get Elvira show ready that week.

Thanks Tom. Your the best.

Oh......yes..........It did take 1st place at a big show that week thanks to Toms help. We did lighting and everything within the display.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 3:44p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Lynn's truck does look amazing and I use Adam's products on my Expy (which is silver BTW) and really like them. I am with Sprocket, I will never own another black vehicle... I have a black '94 Cobra and the paint on that thing sucks! It was one of the worst years for black paint.I have used Adam's on it and it looks okay but for some reason Mothers products do a better job on it. Maybe when we clean it up after its current state of abuse is ended we will do a side by side comparison.

You probably put a majority of those spider web scratches in when you were drying it with your chamois. You will need to use a glaze to "fill in" those scratches to make them less obvious. Have fun owning your black Jeep!

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 6:07p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Black is a pain.
Lynn I wish I would have had 20 hrs to clean my truck for that show.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 8:26p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I curse my black daily. Doesn't it figure all 3 of my trucks are black. To think I swore after the first one I would never own another black vehicle. Even a couple of months ago when I repainted the F150, under the hood, jams, bed everything, perfect time for a color change and I still went back to black. Oh well, gotta say that a clean and well taken care of black vehicle is hard to beat on good looks.

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Posted  - July 6 2005 : 8:36p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator




I am another one with a black truck it is a pain in the ass to keep clean everthing shows

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Posted  - July 7 2005 : 9:39a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I have not one black truck right now but two. Dont feel sorry for me as its my own fault.

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Posted  - July 8 2005 : 9:07p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Thanks again everyone for all the 411

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Posted  - July 9 2005 : 3:21a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I'll second the suggestion for Adams, especially with black.

If that's too much $$$, try using Mothers Sealer/Glaze (should be able to buy a bottle of it for $6-8 at any Pep Boys/AutoZone type place. Use a microfiber to take it off, and I'd suggest a damp microfiber or a well washed baby diaper (the cotton kind - you can get Gerber brand at Walmart in packs of 12 for like $8 - buy the ones that are not 'pre folded', since those have more unnecessary seams).

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Posted  - July 9 2005 : 7:28p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I'm going to have to try the leaf blower thing. I don't have my black truck anymore, but I can see the spiderwebs just as clearly on the red one when they're there still.

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Posted  - August 21 2005 : 6:45p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Lynn, I just polished the Mustang Hood using your method it is awsome!!! Thanks
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