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Posted  - July 17 2007 : 8:11p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Mark, I used black magic tire shine for all of those things before, with the same results. It will run in the rain, and attract dust like a magnet.

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Posted  - July 17 2007 : 11:42p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Adams has an aerosol wax that's very light that we use on all our vinyl and rubber stuff, and even on the semi-flat painted trailer hitch paint and roof rack.

It's called 'In n Out Spray'. It doesn't run (that's why I think it's a light wax, and it makes surfaces look like Mark05KR posted in the Black Magic Tire Wet (applied with a cloth) pictures.

If I just spray it on and go, the overspray is visible on glass, paint, etc. And the surface attracts a lot of dust. If I spray it on and then wipe it off (buffing any nearby glass or paint - comes off much easier than VRT) it looks just as good but doesn't seem to be a dirt magnet.

Anyway, I stopped using VRT altogether after we started using this stuff. Makes the engine look like new, all the black plastic look great, etc., in only a few minutes. I started buying it by the case we used it so much!

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Posted  - July 18 2007 : 7:31a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
On the mirrors, and other like-textured plastics, you can actually use a liquid wax, as long as you take it right off.

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Posted  - July 18 2007 : 8:48a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Adams has an aerosol wax that's very light that we use on all our vinyl and rubber stuff, and even on the semi-flat painted trailer hitch paint and roof rack.

It's called 'In n Out Spray'. It doesn't run (that's why I think it's a light wax, and it makes surfaces look like Mark05KR posted in the Black Magic Tire Wet (applied with a cloth) pictures.

If I just spray it on and go, the overspray is visible on glass, paint, etc. And the surface attracts a lot of dust. If I spray it on and then wipe it off (buffing any nearby glass or paint - comes off much easier than VRT) it looks just as good but doesn't seem to be a dirt magnet.

Anyway, I stopped using VRT altogether after we started using this stuff. Makes the engine look like new, all the black plastic look great, etc., in only a few minutes. I started buying it by the case we used it so much!

MrSVTGal



I hadn't thought of using the In&Out spray on the trim. I use it a lot under the hood and to get to areas in the front wheel wells. How do you apply it to trim around the windows and such without getting it all over the paint and glass? You can't really get a lot of precision trying to aim with the aerosol can. I wonder if it would work if it was sprayed onto a cloth and then wiped on?

Well, it is raining here today, so I will check the results of the Tire Wet experiment once it stops. I will definitely try the In&Out spray and see how that works.

Thanks.

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Posted  - July 18 2007 : 8:51a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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On the mirrors, and other like-textured plastics, you can actually use a liquid wax, as long as you take it right off.


Which liquid wax have you used that doesn't leave a haze or stain the plastic? I know Adams Butter Wax wipes off plastic pretty easily if you get it on there accidentally. Just not sure if it offers any protection on the plastic.

I may give Adams customer service a call today and see what advice they may have.

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Posted  - July 18 2007 : 9:45a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
The In and Out spray will do the exact same thing you are having trouble with now. Remeber MrSVT lives in So Cal it doesnt rain there.

Try the Justonce stuff i posted you have nothing to lose.

Richard

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Posted  - July 18 2007 : 10:48a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I do plan to try the JustOnce. I just don't have any right now so I am experimenting with products I have on hand. Plus, the Black Magic Tire Wet is cheap (about $6.00 for a 32oz bottle) and available locally.

The Tire Wet also does a real nice job on the rubber(plastic?) inside the front wheel wells.

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Posted  - July 18 2007 : 9:34p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey Richard - you're right, we DON'T get much rain, especially this year.

But I wasn't kidding. Maybe the In 'n Out Spray runs for most people, but I usually don't see that. I think it might be because I'm saying you should wipe it down after application (which removes much of the excess, so what's left to run?).

And about putting it on window trim and stuff... since it's a wax based product (I'm almost sure of this, because of the way it buffs off), you can use it on your waxed truck, which gets it all over windows and paint, and simply wipe it down and give it a light buff anywhere on the paint/windows it got on. It wipes off clean and leaves the plastic/vinyl/rubber at about 70% of the original shininess. And, like I said, wiping it down afterward gets rid of that dirt-collecting problem too.

I had about 10X more difficulty getting VRT to buff off of surfaces it got onto by accident, which is why I stopped using it.

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Posted  - July 19 2007 : 10:14a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I also usually give the In and Out spray a good wiping down after a few minutes but any time it rains after application it does the exact same thing Mark05 is complaining about. Makes a streaking mess everywhere.

Richard

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Posted  - July 19 2007 : 10:49a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Well, I got some mixed results with the Black Magic Tire Wet.

It did not stick well to the plastic door handles or to the plastic mirror shell. It also caused quite a bit of streaking on the paint which comes off easily with a mf towel and some detail spray.

The strange part is that it washed off the bottom of those parts but it appears to have stayed on the upper portions where the rain actually hits it. The rain runoff seems to have done the most to remove the treatment.

It did stick pretty well to the plastic mud flaps, the wiper cowl and to the rubber window moldings. I also treated the soft tonneau cover by spraying the tire wet on and then wiping it around with a cloth. That application also seems to have made it through the rain.

The tonneau had not been treated with anything prior to applying the Tire Wet, and that seems to have stood up the best against the rain. The water is beading up well and the tonneau still has a nice sheen. The only down side appears to be the streaking, which could have been due to too much product. Plus, the streaks are easily removed with detail spray, which I would normally do anyway after a rain.

I still have to wonder if the previously applied VRT could have been part of the cause for the Tire Wet not sticking well to some of the plastics.

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Posted  - July 19 2007 : 12:11p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Here is the response I received from Adam's Polishes:

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the email and for your business with Adam's Polishes!!! Because our VRT is a water-based dressing, once it comes in contact with an outside source of water: (heavy rain, heavy dew, or when you wash your vehicle), the VRT will come off. So unfortunately it is not completely rain resistant. It is also the same case with our In & Out Spray. In & Out is also water-based, so once it comes in contact with an outside water source, it will too come off. The In & Out should provide good results when applied with a cloth. You may find it a little harder to spread; in that case you may want to try the VRT instead.

Since our VRT and In & Out Spray do not contain any sort of harmful Petroleum-based products, the longevity of them are not as great as some other dressings. Some of the advantages of having a water-based dressing is it will not harm your vehicle’s finish, it will not discolor vinyl, rubber, or plastic pieces, and it does not collect heavy dust and road dirt. VRT and In & Out Spray also leaves low-gloss, new looking finishes to all vinyl, rubber, and plastic trim. Also, the best way to prevent streaks is to apply the VRT as thinly as possible.

To answer your question Mark, yes, In & Out Spray does contain UV protection similar to the VRT.

Thank you again for the email and for your business with Adam's Polishes!!! Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Have a great day!


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Posted  - July 20 2007 : 5:32p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Well, it turns out that the Tire Wet streaking on the paint is not any where near as easy to remove as the streaks left by the VRT. I will not be using that stuff again on the trim and especially on the tonneau.

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Posted  - July 20 2007 : 8:23p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Mark if you have not purchased the Justonce yet send me a PM with your full name and mailing address and I will send you a very small bottle with some it it for you to try.

Richard

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Posted  - July 21 2007 : 12:38p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Mark if you have not purchased the Justonce yet send me a PM with your full name and mailing address and I will send you a very small bottle with some it it for you to try.

Richard



Thank you very much for the offer, but I did order a 16oz bottle.

I was happy to see that the $13.95 price included the shipping charges. I figured it would be an additional $5-$10 dollars for shipping. $13.95 total for a 16oz bottle is not too bad, especially if my experience with the product matches yours.

Thanks again for bringing this stuff to my attention.

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Posted  - July 21 2007 : 1:48p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
No problem I am certain you will be happy with it. I know i certainly am.

When using it though do to spray it directly onto the plastic. Spray it onto a foam pad or MF covered foam pad and then wipe on. Also make sure to wash your hands after-wards as it will be stuck all over you if you get it on your hands.Also wash out teh aplicator you use or it will get stiff as a board.

Richard

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Posted  - July 21 2007 : 2:50p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Will do, thsnks for the tips.

What do you use to clean the applicator.

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Posted  - July 21 2007 : 6:35p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hot water and Dawn Dish soap.

This is what use to to apply it with.


http://www.autogeek.net/pinterclotpa1.html

Richard

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Posted  - July 22 2007 : 8:18a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I have a six pack of the Adam's MF applicator pads. Same as those from AutoGeek but with a MF cover instead of terry cloth.

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Posted  - July 22 2007 : 12:40p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Those will work.

Richard

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Posted  - July 22 2007 : 5:57p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I tried another experiment today.

I was cleaning up LOML's Mustang. On the convertible top I have been using Raggtopp vinyl protectant. I got some on the plastic trim and it looked pretty good. I read up on the product a little and it says it is formulated for any vinyl and will not harm plastic or rubber.

So I figured what the heck, give it a try. It lasts a long time on the convertible top, through rain and washings. I guess I'll see if it works as well on the trim.

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Posted  - August 2 2007 : 2:18p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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No problem I am certain you will be happy with it. I know i certainly am.

When using it though do to spray it directly onto the plastic. Spray it onto a foam pad or MF covered foam pad and then wipe on. Also make sure to wash your hands after-wards as it will be stuck all over you if you get it on your hands.Also wash out teh aplicator you use or it will get stiff as a board.

Richard



I have a question for you Richard. How long did it take for you to get your product?

I placed an order on 7/21 which was charged to my credit card on 7/22. I received an order confirmation the same day I placed the order, 7/21. I haven't heard anything since.

I sent a couple of emails to get the status, but have not received a response. I called the telephone number today and got an answering machine. I left my name and number but so far have not received a return call.

One other thing that I found a little strange. I went back to the product ordering page and all of my information came up, including my credit card information.

I know this isn't your problem, just wondering about your experience with this company.

Edited by - Mark05KR on August 3 2007 8:44a

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Posted  - August 2 2007 : 7:21p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
It did take awhile for the product to arrive one of the things i complained to them about. Maybe 2 weeks or so. Looks like your order was taken on a weekend as was mine one of the reasons i think it took so long. As for your info coming up. Clear out all your cookies and then go back and I am certain none of it will come up.

Richard

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Posted  - August 3 2007 : 8:49a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I was able to clear my information from the order form. It was just a little surprising that everything was still there.

Today is the tenth business day since I placed the order. Hopefully it will come soon. What really bugs me is that I haven't received a single response to the emails I sent or to the phone message I left. That is just really bad customer service.

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Posted  - August 3 2007 : 6:48p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yeah that does not sound normal. They have replied to me pretty quickly when ever i have needed to ask a question. I wonder if they are on Vacation? Not that it is an excuse they should have at least had an auto reply setup if that was the case.

Did you get a order confirmation via email once you placed the order? If not then maybe the order did not get placed.

Richard

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Posted  - August 4 2007 : 12:37a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Mark if you have not purchased the Justonce yet send me a PM with your full name and mailing address and I will send you a very small bottle with some it it for you to try.

Richard


Hey Richard, you can send some my way

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