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wojf72
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Posted - September 6 : 4:05p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hi Guys,

I new to the site and I have been having a problem with my 1998 Ford Expedition XLT 4.6L (W). While driving on city streets the tempature gauge will read normal the all of a sudden it will spike all the way to HOT and the red coolant light will light up. The truck still runs normal there is no change in the way it performs. It will not overheat on the highway at all. The gauge remains in the normal position. I have replaced the thermostat and it still happens. Itook it to a shop and they looked at it all day but were unable to find a problem and they said that the gauge didn't spike on them the whole day. When the gauge spikes and the light goes on I see nothing leaking in the engine compartment and the fan appears to be operating normally, Any ideas on what may be causing this problem? Thanks!

Frank

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Posted  - September 6 : 6:58p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Very hard to diagnose a overheat condition online. Could be the mechanical fan is not operating properly and is worn out. Could be air trapped in the cooling system. Could be a flow issue with a broken impeller on the water pump. could be a flow issue within the radiator. Usually if it only happen in city driving it is a clutch fan failure where it is not drawing enough air across the radiator.

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Posted  - September 6 : 8:00p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
^^^ I'd say that the system needs to be burped (air in the system). That can cause odd variations as sometimes the sensor reads the actual coolant temperature, and other times it reads superheated steam. And in some systems it might even read just air (and likely read really low). So the needle can be very unpredictable.

How FAST is it going from normal to spiked to normal? Over several minutes? 10 minutes? seconds? Only in traffic (stopped, basically)? or even when you're moving?

There are lots of other things that could cause this, but I think the most likely one, and the one that costs basically zero to try/fix, is making sure the coolant is topped off and burped properly.

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Posted  - September 7 : 11:20a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I'd suspect the temperature sending unit.

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Posted  - September 8 : 10:52a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I am placing money on the temp sending unit myself. Assuming that it rises very rapidly (over the course of a few seconds or less), then that would indicate an electrical issue. If the temp rises over say a minute, then I would be looking at either air in the system or the water pump is starting to go and with the higher engine RPM, it can move enough water to keep things cool, but slow down and it can't move the water like it needs to.

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Posted  - September 16 : 10:07a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Your 98 uses three sensors to monitor the engine temperature. One Coolant Temperature Sender is for the instrument cluster. A second Engine Coolant Temperature sensor is for the PCM (computer) to help control fuel delivery, timing and EGR. A third Cylinder Head Temperature sensor is used by the PCM to monitor and control the fail safe cooling available for the V8 engines of that model year. If the engine was actually overheating to the point of pegging the needle the PCM would initiate Fail-safe cooling. The truck would run on alternating 4 cylinders. The PCM would illuminate the oil pressure light and the over heating light at the same time to alert you to the Fail-safe Cooling mode. I also suspect the Engine Coolant Temperature Sender because you posted that the truck still ran fine. On the intake manifold coolant crossover it should be the one on the right (passenger side). There are two sensors on the crossover.

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