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Posted - August 28 : 11:04p
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I just got through watching osama's obama's speech at the demoncratic national convention. My take...
He is FULL OF SHIT!
My logic:
1. He wants to invest in renewable energy. Grand. ethanol is a net loss of energy. As in, it takes 8 barrels of oil to make 7 barrels of ethanol. Look it up. Also, anybody want to guess the number of people employed in the oilfield and supporting industries? A shit load. Why have the democrats blocked building new refineries or nuclear power plants for the past, oh 20 or so years? Also, why are they still blocking drilling? I know the time frame to get a well producing, but if we'd started earlier, we'd have been making our own gas a few years ago.
2. Windfall profits tax on the oil companies Who in their right fucking mind thinks this won't get passed on to the consumer?
3. All the rest of his shit He had some great ideas, but even my wife (who watches oprah religiously and is a little more left wing than I am) said "He really didn't say anything. How is he going to do any of that?"
Most of the rest of his shit speech was feel good stuff, but no substantiating matter. He talked about what he wanted to do, but not how. I can't wait for a debate, when he isn't on a script. I read the transcript of the one in Cali, he was fucking lost.
paraphrased: "The decision about abortion is above my pay grade"
So, if your daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock, and has two years of high school left, where do you stand? Can she get an abortion to finish school and get into the now cheaper colleges? Or does she have it and learn a little responsibility?
and lastly, Personal Responsibility He said (again, paraphrasing, I have been drinking) that personal responsibility has left this country. I agree. But class envy and redistribution of wealth aren't going to help. I say give a hand UP for the short term, then your ass is out on your own. If all of you well to do 8 figure a year making motherfuckers want to support them, fine. Why do i have to, when I have worked my as off to get where i am?
Hopefully this doesn't get pulled, I am curious to see if the other working people on this board agree or think I am a right wing conservative whack job. the fact that I am a whack job isn't up for debate, just which direction i lean.
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- August 29 : 12:07a
| | He's still better than Senator "more of the same" McCain. My vote is swinging his way. Fuck McCain. | | Mort
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- August 29 : 12:59a
| This is quite a Mort-esque post. I'm proud of you.
1. The only reason any politician gives a shit about ethanol is because it will help them win the Iowa Caucuses. Any reputable scientist knows that ethanol is not sustainable, and its just raising food prices through the roof and destroying the soil in which its planted.
2. Good point. Make their taxes higher, so their profits go down, so they don't sell us any oil. Or pass on the savings to us. Did you know that oil company profit margins are 14 percent? Granted, in an economy like this, that's pretty good, but isn't what one would consider out of line.
3. Is it a good idea to have the 1st most liberal senator run for president and have the 3rd most liberal senator be his running mate? Especially in a time when most of America is leaning to the center, no matter what side they started on. McCain, by contrast, has a record of leaning left on a lot of issues, even when his own party was on the other side. So much so, that he will probably have to pick a more conservative running mate to nail down the hardcore conservatives. But the leftists just LOOOOOVVVVEEEE to point out that he's in the same party as Bush, supported the surge (which almost everybody agrees is working), and supported the Iraq war (which all the leading democrats in the picture, except Obama, voted for originally). If that's all they've got, then I feel sorry for them.
Abortion and Personal Responsibility: The two go hand in hand. Now, I'm not some stuck up asshole that thinks if you get raped then you've got to have a little reminder of it for the rest of your life. But c'mon, don't kill a child because they're inconvenient. Life begins at conception, period. This is because, if left alone, it will become a full fledged human being, with eyes, ears, a penis (or pussy), dreams, and ambitions. Its sickening to think that people will try to end that life based solely on how much money they are making at the time, or how young they are.
But now its bed time, and the children that we chose to let live won't put themselves to bed. | | Screwd_Up
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- August 29 : 9:00a
| Quote: Originally posted by Mort
This is quite a Mort-esque post. I'm proud of you.
2. Good point. Make their taxes higher, so their profits go down, so they don't sell us any oil. Or pass on the savings to us. Did you know that oil company profit margins are 14 percent? Granted, in an economy like this, that's pretty good, but isn't what one would consider out of line. |
Actually, per the Wall Street Journal, "Between 2003 and 2007, Exxon paid $64.7 billion in U.S. taxes, exceeding its after-tax U.S. earnings by more than $19 billion...Exxon's profit margin stood at 10% for 2007...aerospace or machinery -- both 8.2% in 2007. Chemicals had an average margin of 12.7%. Computers: 13.7%. Electronics and appliances: 14.5%. Pharmaceuticals (18.4%) and beverages and tobacco (19.1%) round out the Census Bureau's industry rankings" the whole article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121780636275808495.html
Quote: 3. Is it a good idea to have the 1st most liberal senator run for president and have the 3rd most liberal senator be his running mate? Especially in a time when most of America is leaning to the center, no matter what side they started on. McCain, by contrast, has a record of leaning left on a lot of issues, even when his own party was on the other side. So much so, that he will probably have to pick a more conservative running mate to nail down the hardcore conservatives. But the leftists just LOOOOOVVVVEEEE to point out that he's in the same party as Bush, supported the surge (which almost everybody agrees is working), and supported the Iraq war (which all the leading democrats in the picture, except Obama, voted for originally). If that's all they've got, then I feel sorry for them. |
Anybody else realized that Bush ain't running this year?
Quote: Abortion and Personal Responsibility: The two go hand in hand. Now, I'm not some stuck up asshole that thinks if you get raped then you've got to have a little reminder of it for the rest of your life. But c'mon, don't kill a child because they're inconvenient. Life begins at conception, period. This is because, if left alone, it will become a full fledged human being, with eyes, ears, a penis (or pussy), dreams, and ambitions. Its sickening to think that people will try to end that life based solely on how much money they are making at the time, or how young they are.
But now its bed time, and the children that we chose to let live won't put themselves to bed.
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Agreed. I thought I put something like that in my post last night, but apparently the natty lights had a hold on me.
TiT-What platforms that Obama is running on do you like? And have you heard HOW he is actually going to DO anything? All I have heard is hope and change. From what I have read, his voting record is more "present" than left or right leaning. | | | |
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