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Greez Lightning
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Posted - July 15 : 12:27p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
It seems due to Scott Kalitta's accident NHRA has shortened the quarter mile racing for Nitro cars only to 1000 ft. This gives 300 feet more shut down area and the cars are going slower when they shut off.

This will continue until NHRA finds a fix to the dangers of short shut of distances of all tracks.
When the tracks shut down areas were built Nitro Dragsters were only going about 200 MPH now they go 335 MPH.

It is said that they will return to quarter mile racing but one of two things are going to have to be in place first. Either better stopping devices will have to be installed on the tracks or they are going to slow the Nitro cars down by imposing some rules.

Many have been suggested like smaller tires, Magneto changes, Intake Changes, Blower Changes and a host of others I cant remember.

They have already required frames to be made of larger tubing and thicker walled tubing as well.

At least there will be fewer engine blow ups as most (not all) engines let go after the 1000 ft mark.


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Posted  - July 15 : 5:01p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I think there should be an "option C"

Make the tracks longer,..and keep it 1320 feet.

People always have to screw with tradition.

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Posted  - July 15 : 5:11p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yeah, one death and they want to change everything.

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Posted  - July 15 : 5:16p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
yeah,,,,should be at least a 50 death minimum.

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Posted  - July 15 : 5:19p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yeah. like the Pinto.

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Posted  - July 15 : 9:04p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Feh.. Just another case of NHRA not doing due diligence and continually improving safety of the tracks. Granted drag racing is relatively safe compared to some other motor sports, but they've taken the cheap way out by being reactive instead of proactive.

It's a shame that Scott had to lose his life, but I have to think that even at 1000ft he still would have been carrying a ton of speed into the sandbox, especially since its likely that the concussion from that monster explosion knocked him unconscious. Would it have helped the situation? Maybe. Would it have kept him alive? We'll never know.

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Posted  - July 15 : 10:19p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator

They need move their events to tracks that have longer shut down areas and more than a sand trap to catch these cars, or slow them down.

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Posted  - July 15 : 11:28p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I think they should just make the tracks longer. Hopefully this is a short term fix untill they make the tracks longer that is what needs to be done not mess with traditional 1/4 mile drag racing

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Posted  - July 16 : 9:13a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
In many cases there is no way to make the current tracks longer.

Case in point.

Pomona, Ca. Track where two events a year are held.

The end of the shut down stops at a street that cannot be closed and just across that street is a large hill where a golf course resides. Youll never get that property.

Only way that can be solved is build an entire new drag race track, Parking lot, Concessions,Rest Rooms, Media, timing booth & sponsor apartments Parking lot etc. And where are you going to find 4 square miles in the middle of Los Angeles for something like that even if you had the money which NHRA DOES NOT!

So were screwed.

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Posted  - July 16 : 10:05a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Very good point greez we are just screwed unless they come up with a better brake system

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Posted  - July 16 : 6:56p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I say lengthen the shut-down areas at the tracks that are able to and don't race at the short tracks. 1/4 mile is old school(in a good way)and should not be fucked with. What killed Scott Kalitta was a concrete pole on the inside of the barrier wall. WTF? And if you watch the video, he also hit a man lift with someone in the lift bucket. If the pole wasn't there we would of had another death or seriously injured bystander. As for as slowing the cars down, I'm not for that and most fans really like to see what those cars are capable of.

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Posted  - July 16 : 8:08p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Lynn, speaking of Drag Racing are you going to be at Sears Point Next Weekend?

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Posted  - July 16 : 9:46p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Slowing cars down

Been done before...NASCAR
NASCAR realized that the "Stock" Car had reached it's limits
of control and containment (staying on the track) after Bobby
Allison's crash.

Would I like to see 215 MPH Stock Cars yes, but it's not worth the risk

Drag Racing needs to realize that under 300 MPH can be as exciting
as 315 MPH. It's a Drag Race, reaction time and ET are the win factors
not MPH. Blower Explosions have been a fact since they started using them. if they haven't figured out stop them by now..will they ever.

If a 275 MPH Run is not exciting....then what were all the fans showing up to see in the old days...Guess we where just gettin fooled

One last thought Doug Herbert was on John Boy & Billy Today. His 2 Boys were killed in a Car accident. Maybe more thought and concern needs to go into those 2 deaths then the death of a Race Car Driver who cheats Death every Weekend

IMHO

Edited by - A11BUDMAN on July 17 3:59a

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Posted  - July 17 : 8:35a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Richard. Infinion in Napa is in two weeks. We have Seattle next week.

Its July 25 to 27

I really want to get up there for that and I am going to try hard to make it.

Budman.
Its not the small difference in speed.
The problem for me is that extra 320 feet allows more time and distance for one car to make a mistake and still be in the race. Ive seen cars change lead two times before. With 1000 ft you or your motor cant make one tiny mistake. Its less fun to watch. Also with 1320 ft you can be slower on the light and still win. Now its all down to who can cut a light better.

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Posted  - July 17 : 8:57a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Greez
I reckon I should have said Keep the 1/4 mile
The Hell with 1,000 Ft. Just detune the Cars
to stay under 300 mph.

I agree a lot can happen in a 1/4 mile

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Posted  - July 17 : 9:24a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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[i]Richard. Infinion in Napa is in two weeks. We have Seattle next week.

Its July 25 to 27

I really want to get up there for that and I am going to try hard to make it.



Yeah exactly next weekend not this weekend.

Anyway Terri, Samantha and I will be there Saturday so if you make it up give me a buzz.

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Posted  - July 17 : 6:35p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
You know I will. I hope to be there.

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Posted  - July 18 : 8:28p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
well!

do something like nascar or close to what they did.

add a wing to the back of the car that putsdrag on the car!

they have all the motor they had before. just have a 6" wing or wall you might say tht when the air hits it it slows the car down.

nascar put those strips on top of the car and the hood flaps on too to keep cars from flipping over. and it works!

you can't do restricter plate racing in funny cars so! what would be the next idea a blocking wing to hold them up.

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Posted  - July 18 : 9:20p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator

To slow the cars down, they need to make the wing smaller not bigger. The larger the wing, the more the down force they have at the top end allowing them to put more power down and go even faster.
Other methods for slowing cars down are with tires that won't let the cars launch so hard, further restrictions on fuel mixtures and limiting gear ratios.
If they do slow the cars down, hopefully it'll only be at tracks with limited shutdown areas. The track in Denver has plenty of room to slow them down and they should be allowed to go balls out there.

Edited by - culater on July 18 9:22p

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Posted  - July 19 : 11:04a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
And its uphill.

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Posted  - July 19 : 10:04p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I say forget the tracks that cant improve their stopping areas, and just keep the ones that can improve them..

this reminds me when a bunch of us from the other site, went to see the heatwave jet truck racing in San Antonio.. he hit the wall going a couple hundred miles an hour, becuz one parachute was damp, and the other wasnt.. he went past the shut down away, and way deep into this swampy area that was past the track.. the medics couldnt even get to him.. luckily he walked away.. but my point? some places certainly must exist that can and should improve the stopping areas.. and like I said at the beginning, forget the rest ESPECIALLY if they can't adjust to modern needs for stopping..

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Posted  - July 20 : 6:59p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Ya forget the tracks that can't expand their shut down areas (probably 80 to 90% of them) and while we're at it, lets just shut all motorsports down. It's too dangerous.. we really need some federal legislation here to save these people from themselves.

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Posted  - July 20 : 11:21p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yes and those racers are using so much of our quickly diminishing oil, I mean we are in an oil crisis say the professionals, you know what lets just shut down the whole country maybe that will make them all happy

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Posted  - July 22 : 8:01a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Ya forget the tracks that can't expand their shut down areas (probably 80 to 90% of them) and while we're at it, lets just shut all motorsports down. It's too dangerous.. we really need some federal legislation here to save these people from themselves.
I'm with you.

wtf, why not just reschedule the whole season to a nationwide tour of Dave & Buster's Eat, Drink & Play Arcades

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Posted  - July 22 : 9:35p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yea, maybe we should all just quit living.
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