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dizzy
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Posted - May 16 : 9:23p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
i was thinking about turning my dually to a regular wheeled truck.

i have a 2003 f-350

-the front wheels...can i simply remove the spacer on the rotors? and then bolt regular wheels?
-i don't have to do anything to the rear hubs, right? just remove the duallys and replace with regular rims?

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Posted  - May 16 : 11:28p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
How come?

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Posted  - May 17 : 8:45a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
its kinda a pain in the a**, 6 tires, rotation of the tires is a big deal, i would most likely get better mpg, and i don't really need the duallys.

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Posted  - May 17 : 8:45a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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How come?


My reasons would be...

Cost of 4 tires compared to 6
Rotation...Ford screwed up on some dually rims so you actually have to take the tire off the rim if you want to rotate them and keep the shiney side of the rim out
It looks really cool with one big fat tire stuffed into the rear well
Not many people do it so it can be a conversation piece



Dizzy, I belive you're right. Remove the spacer up front and just put on regular rims. Depending on how you want to the wheels (matching in size, front to rear) you may need a spacer for the rear. I never did it so don't quote me. Denny or Joe might know. Maybe try and email one of them.

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Posted  - May 17 : 8:47a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
PS Denny's screeen name is DrSpeed. Joe's is JOE

Edited by - Kristen on May 17 8:48a

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Posted  - May 17 : 9:36a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
The big fat tire on the rear part is good enough for me.

Another cool thing that Chevy started in, oh, 99 or 2000 was they had a concept called the Silverado Superwide. It was basically a dually bed with just the outer wheel, so there was no wheel well intrusion into the bed. That might be cool to see.

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Posted  - May 17 : 10:04a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Mort, I've seen some guys with f350s do that in winter time, and im here to tell you it looks goofy as hell. lol

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Posted Wirelessly  - May 17 : 10:08a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
yo!

The Front axle may require new hub bearings, as the dually studs may differ from SRW studs. i have spare factory hubs if you need them.

the rear, i just bolted up my wheels, and no spacers, and away i went! The width looked fine.

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Posted  - May 17 : 10:32a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Mort, I've seen some guys with f350s do that in winter time, and im here to tell you it looks goofy as hell. lol

Jason



Yeah, but do they cut out the wheel wells and weld them up?

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Posted  - May 17 : 10:49a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
drspeed: when you say studs may differ...referring to the bolt pattern for the rims, right?

would the bolt pattern on the rotor be the same as the front spacer?-i'll check my owners manual for the pattern.

i put drilled and slotted rotors a year ago, would i have to replace them? --i hope not!!

- i'm not interested in the big back tire (unless i went to 22.5 semi wheels)...can't rotate tires.

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Posted  - May 17 : 4:21p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Mort, they didnt weld up the bed because they put the duals back on for summer. I was just saying that a single stock sized wheel/tire looks funny IMO. The wide singles look kinda neat though...

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Posted  - May 27 : 8:24p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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yo!

The Front axle may require new hub bearings, as the dually studs may differ from SRW studs. i have spare factory hubs if you need them.

the rear, i just bolted up my wheels, and no spacers, and away i went! The width looked fine.



wouldn't the front and rear bolt pattern be the same?...if i changed the front wouldn't i need to change the stud pattern out back too.

you have a DRW rear axle on your truck, correct? did you need to change anything to run regular wheels on it?


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Posted  - May 27 : 9:16p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
i can't seem to find the bolt pattern/spacing in my owners manual...where else can i look?

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Posted  - May 27 : 9:23p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
He is talking length I think. The pattern will be the same but the front hub area is pushed out due to the style of rim you use on a dually.

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Posted Wirelessly  - May 28 : 1:31a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
the front hubs on a DRW truck has spacers that bolt on. I'm 99% sure that thet are 8x110 bolt patterns. You may need SRW studs on there though.

On the rear...didn't do anything. just bolted the wheels back on!

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Posted  - May 29 : 9:55p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
will the studs need to be pressed at a shop?

in the back, will those studs be really long too, because they are made to bolt two wheels on just one?

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Posted  - May 30 : 1:10p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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will the studs need to be pressed at a shop?

in the back, will those studs be really long too, because they are made to bolt two wheels on just one?



Re: Rear axle - They worked fine with my aftermarket wheels, so I hope that helps.

And the studs - pound them in with a hammer.

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Posted  - June 10 : 10:47a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
You can also use washers on the stud and then tighten the nut to pull the stud on.

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Posted  - June 10 : 12:37p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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You can also use washers on the stud and then tighten the nut to pull the stud on.

JMC



why do that, when you have a hammer option?

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Posted  - June 11 : 8:00a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
There is less likely a chance to damage the hub. Besides, my aim sucks and on my truck there is no room to pound with a hammer.

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Posted  - June 11 : 10:32a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
If I had a dually I'd but one wide ass rim on it with a monster wide slick or street slick if they make them. Im talking 15 to 18 inches wide tire at the tread.

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Posted  - June 15 : 8:08p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
i did look into the super single, they really only exist for tractor trailers. i'd have to buy and install an adapter from 8 bolt to 10 = $1000. and 22.5 wheels and tires $2500-$3000. too much for me to spend on tires. not to mention i'd have to lift my truck 4"-6".

DrSpeed, i just want to double check, about the rear axle...i don't have to change the DRW axle at all (hubs, breaks, etc.), just bolt up, right?

i was talking to some guys about this conversion and they felt very strongly that there were major changes needed. they thought the tires would sit much closer together and would look funny and maybe even rub the inside of the wheel wells.



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Posted  - June 16 : 10:25a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Nope. you got nothing to worry about.

The D80 off an F350 will work easiy. I had no issues of backspacing on the axle or anything else for that matter.

The brakes will sit obviously more inboard and exposed, but that doesn't harm anything.

I used the EXACT same wheels and tires on my Sterling 10.5 as on the D80.

http://www.truckblog.com/gallery/display.asp?id=14080

I mean, if you want to try it out, find another Superduty and bolt on the wheels...that'll cost ya nothing!

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Posted  - June 16 : 11:22a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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If I had a dually I'd but one wide ass rim on it with a monster wide slick or street slick if they make them. Im talking 15 to 18 inches wide tire at the tread.




I had a neighbor that did that years ago with a Chevy 454SS Dually. It was lowered and all black, looked incredible.
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