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TANKS 250
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Posted - May 7 : 10:42p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
All I'm waiting for now is the filter/water separator kit to come in.


(2) 14 gallon rolling fuel tanks
12volt diesel fuel transfer pump...which I'm wiring into my trailer plug instead of clamping it to my battery.
and I have a 8 gallons of 2 cycle to get me started.










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Edited by - TANKS 250 on May 31 9:06p
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Posted  - May 7 : 11:05p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Shouldnt you paint the tanks black so theyre less noticable at night while youre filling up lol

Whats the draw on the pump? Is the aux power in the trailer plug strong enough to handle that amperage?



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Posted  - May 8 : 12:13a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Whats the draw on the pump? Is the aux power in the trailer plug strong enough to handle that amperage?


The pump is says its a 20amp...I've heard of people running transfer pumps from the trailer plug before....but for some reason...it is the only thing I didn't investigate before I stated this project.



SO...doesn't anyone know how much power/amps the 7 pin trailer package on a 2005 can handle?




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Edited by - TANKS 250 on May 8 12:14a

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Posted  - May 8 : 1:38a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Whats the scoop with the jet fuel.

I had a co worker that was getting Jet fuel fopr free, they would pump ther tanks from the planes dry after they landed to remove condensation. and put it in 55 gallon drums, that had to pay to dispose of it so he would take it for free. added some 2 cycle and had good luck for a while. Man that stuff was hard on seals.

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Posted  - May 8 : 6:34a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Reminds me of an episode of family guy.

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Posted  - May 8 : 9:40a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
The battery lead on the 7 pin connector is rated for 50 amps as I recall. It is there to recharge a battery located on a trailer. So, it will easily handle the transfer pump. Just make sure to tap into the battery lead, not another lead as no other lead in the 7 pin connector will handle the transfer pump.

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Posted  - May 8 : 9:46a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
wow 50a? didnt seem like the gauge of wire was that large last time I was in there. I guess the easy way would be to look in the book and see what size fuse powers it.

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Posted  - May 8 : 3:23p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
That's thermo....now I just have to find which two wires I need on the 7 pin...and maybe a diaghram

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Posted  - May 8 : 3:34p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
That's easy Jay. The diagram is right on the lid of the 7way plug on your truck. Just look at your owners manual for the fuse rating.

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Posted  - May 8 : 6:11p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
whatcha doing with allt the jet fuel?

2 stroke oil? You're gonna run your weed wacker off JP8?

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Posted  - May 8 : 10:38p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
LOL...yeah ...I guess

6.0L = weedwacker


The last weed I "whacked"...was 18 feet tall...I hit it with such force it snapped in 3 places.....I'll never forget that night....lol








Edited by - TANKS 250 on May 8 10:39p

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Posted  - May 8 : 11:51p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
^^^^^ LOL DAMN!!!!!


We drain a mason jar out of our Jet Fuel trucks every morning that goes into a bowser to be disposed of later. It's a total waste, to me.

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Posted  - May 9 : 1:21a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
JP8 + 2 Stroke oil = diesel?

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Posted  - May 9 : 7:22a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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JP8 + 2 Stroke oil = diesel?


There are some minor differences....but basically...that it.

JP8 has additives to "suspend" the water in the fuel....so you have to filter the water out.

JP8 had less BTU's than diesel...but it's not very much...but technically,..on paper...there will be a slight loss in power/mileage.

JP8 doesn't have the lubricity that diesel has...have to add 5%(cumulative) 2 cycle to the JP8 to gain back the lost lubricity.


Soooo....filter the water out, and add some 2 cycle....bang...you have diesel.

Edited by - TANKS 250 on May 9 7:23a

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Posted  - May 9 : 9:45a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Ok, I must be missing something.

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slight loss in power/mileage.

This is very unlike you. What is the upside?

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Posted  - May 9 : 11:33a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
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Ok, I must be missing something.

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slight loss in power/mileage.

This is very unlike you. What is the upside?



Can't argue with $free.99

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Posted  - May 9 : 11:34a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
What he said....^^^^^^

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Posted  - May 31 : 9:05p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I made my set-up a little cleaner now....

I piped it so it would fit nice in a milk crate,...and the 12 volt pump now runs off of my 7-pin tow package plug.







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Posted  - June 1 : 11:05p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Anyone want to fill me in on how you intend to get free JP8?

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Posted  - June 1 : 11:42p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
It is the "sample draws" for aircraft....it can't be reused,....so I filter it, add 2 cycle...and pour it in.

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Posted  - June 2 : 9:42a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Ahhh. Nice. So theres just some drums of this haning around for you to drain? What would they normally do with it?

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Posted  - June 3 : 6:53a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Actually...the waste fuel is in 400gal tanks.

What normally happens is...a company comes in and pumps it out of the tank,...then they charge us a HAZ/MAT fee,...they filter it,...then sell it back to us at regular price.

Soooo....technically...they charge us a total of 3 times for the same fuel....lol

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Posted  - June 3 : 9:44a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Have you checked to see if its safe for all your seals and gaskets in the motor like fuel lines, injectors, intake manifold etc?

I used to use 130 octane aviation fuel. I would get the fueler that fueled my twin cessna to fill my tank behind the hanger for my 77 Trans Am which had a 460 CU and Ram Air 5 heads, with a full AA/Dragster bottom end and a 400 shot of nitrous.

The thing I had to watch out for is that the fuel had antifreeze in it so I had to change the oil much more often as it would get antifreeze in the bottom end.

Now my plane only went about 25,000 feet with turbo motors and Jets of course go as high as 36,000 feet so they MUST be using antifreeze in their fuel. Did you factor that in?

I would just hate to hear it trashed you motor in some way.

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Posted  - June 3 : 12:03p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Yeah....I did a butt load of research before I took this project on.

I only use the "sample fuel" that comes from the Helo's.

There isn't any prist in it ...so I'm good.

The military runs the exact same stuff in their trucks when they run out of normal diesel....and they don't have any problems. They don't don't add 2 cycle.....I do.

Edited by - TANKS 250 on June 3 12:04p
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