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A11BUDMAN
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Posted - January 10 2007 : 8:50a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey Now,

I need a little help....

I have the 100 tore down doing an off frame....

I want to smooth all the Interior parts...Dash, A pillars, etc, etc...
I'm going for the old metal dash look!!!

I've seen and heard of ways to do this....Sanding...Filler primer...so on...

I was thinking that Fiber glass resin would be a quicker way???

Any suggestion would be welcomed

I have the interior completely out so making a mess is not a problem and most of the work can be bench work....

Time is the main factor...I don't want to eat up a lot of time...Want to get the old girl back on the road!!!!

Thanks!!!!

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Posted  - January 10 2007 : 9:57a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Fiberglass would certainly be a better way. From what I have heard, it is actually fairly easy to do, also. Build your template (which you already have), put some mesh over it, glop some fiberglass on there, body fill it, and start the painting process. That's oversimplifying it somewhat, but it'll be a ton more durable than painting over rubber and plastic.

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Posted  - January 10 2007 : 10:30a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I wouldn't recommend fiberglass resin without some actual fibers for reinforcement. If not done properly it can be somewhat brittle and possible develop cracks.

Not sure exactly what your setup is, but it *sounds* like you have some plastic pieces that you want to smooth and paint? IMO, the best approach would be to just use a 5" or 6" RO sander and smooth everything out. If you try to smooth it by "building up" with resin/glass you might have fitment problems when you go to put everything back together.

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Posted  - January 10 2007 : 11:49a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I don't have any fiberglassing experience but it seems to me you'll maybe spend about an equal amount of prep time doing either just glassing or sanding/smoothing.

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Posted  - January 10 2007 : 2:27p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
The best way, provided the plastics are not to brittle, is sand the grain or testure, then use a heavy fill flexprimer. Remeber to use flex additve to all you color and finish coats, the panels do flex (especially during installation #@$%!!).

A11BUDMAN
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Posted  - January 10 2007 : 4:12p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey Now,

Thanks for the info!!!!

I reckon it won't be quick and easy to do...but what is ever quick and easy!!!!

Thanks again

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Posted  - January 10 2007 : 6:12p Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Well after looking at the dash on my 86 I've come to the conclusion that I think it would be best just to sand it smooth if your wanting to keep the stock shape. If you want to change the shape then fiberglass would be the way to go.

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Posted  - January 11 2007 : 11:35a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
As someone else stated, every little piece in an auto moves and flexes. I love fiberglass but it isn't so forgiving in the long run and will most likely crack. I truly think you'd be better off taking all the time to sand down what you have. You've spent a lot of time on your truck already, so a bit more won't hurt any.



PS. And definitely try and get a flex additive in the paint. It really works.

Edited by - Kristen on January 11 2007 11:36a

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Posted  - January 13 2007 : 1:23a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Ya know.... by sanding all the texture off you will be able to see any little imperfection right? The smallest scrape or scuff will be very noticeable. If you do happen to go this route I suggest cutting it with 180 then finishing it at about 400. That will still allow you the mechanical adhesion but look and feel smooth.

Unless your changing the entire shape of the object I would not use fiberglass, it's a messy pain in the butt. Bondo is also not the answer, you can only build that so high then it becomes brittle and swells with moisture.

Flex addative was mentioned, that actually evaporates pretty quickly and is only designed to help when the product is being re installed in the vehicle. After about 30 days the paint will be just as brittle as on the exterior of the vehicle. Just an FYI: When you paint use Bulldog before you spray, paint doesn't want to stick to vynal and plastic regularly so that will open it's pores a bit. Goodluck to ya!

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Posted  - January 22 2007 : 1:47a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey A11, get a high build primer, put it on in nice heavy coats. The stuff we used on MT 1coat was = 3 coats of regular primer. Just Scuff your Dash up with a red scotch pad and goto town priming. Dont forget the Wax/Grease remover to avoid adhesion and fisheye problems. Or just send the stuff up to me.

A11BUDMAN
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Posted  - January 22 2007 : 5:21a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
Hey Now,

Thanks for the Replies!!!

Still not sure if I'm going to tackle this or not...

I keep adding things to do....I need to start hanging some parts back on the old Girl!!!

Hey Now Scott...Glad to see ya over here at the Blog!!!!
I saw your Thread over on FTW....Another missing Member...

I got Banned unfairly for 30 days....I followed up on my banning Email and that got me a lifetime ban...

I still hang with most of the NCC Peeps in the area...
I miss the Hell out of the Pre's!!!!!

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Posted  - January 22 2007 : 11:52a Reply with Quote Report this post to a moderator
I still dont see you as the type that would do something to get banned.. lol

If you get the time, shoot me a email, my laptop crashed and i lost yours, and a few others.
S_fore@bellsouth.net

Glad to hear your doin good on the resto
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